Feedback request: Verbascum lychnitis (200705151535_0403)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #266983

Taxon:	Scrophulariaceae: Verbascum lychnitis L. ("White Mullein")
Filed in taxon folder:	Scrophulariaceae: Verbascum lychnitis L. ("White Mullein")
Collected by:	Mr William Wilson Saunders ?
Collection date:	1884
Locality:	Great Britain, Kent, Birchwood
Institution:	Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	buds/immature flowers

Documented by wonastow following initial work by keith barnett on 17^th November 2008.

Edit history

date	user	change
04/03/2009	wonastow	Added collector: W W Saunders
04/03/2009	wonastow	Deleted attribute flowerField: flowering
04/03/2009	wonastow	Added attribute flowerField: immature
27/12/2014	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Deleted collector: W W Saunders
27/12/2014	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Added collector: Mr William Wilson Saunders

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oldnick wrote

There's a small wood called Birch Wood S of Biddenden at TQ845365. W W Saunders? he died in 1879, his Kent specimens seem to be from 1838, 1851 and 1853

[David Price]

There's another W W Saunders spmn from Birchwood, Kent, at http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/261442/ dated 1851. The date 1884 could be a curatorial error.

Birchwood Park is at TQ503704, just east of Hextable, Dartford.

[oldnick]

That does look much more likely somehow than the minor, isolated and scrubby-looking little wood I found. Looking at the other sheet, I found it was actually collected by W F Saunders and had been mis-edited. I can see other sheets have been so misedited, and I'll return to this topic after looking at them

[oldnick]

Sheet http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/254064/ combines both William Frederick Saunders and William Wilson Saunders, suggesting they were related - though logic suggests not brothers

[oldnick]

And both are represented on http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/249256/ where again W W Saunders has an orchid from 'Birchwood Kent'

[oldnick]

It looks likely that W W S was the father of W F S and of Edward Saunders, as the latter's specimens include http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/270281/ and similar. The common link is with Muriel Saunders of the printed labels, who was most likely the daughter of W F S

[David Price]

Saunders's seven children (four sons and three daughters) included William Frederick Saunders FLS (1834–1901); George Sharp Saunders FLS (1842–1910), entomologist; Edward Saunders (1848–1910), also an entomologist; and Mary Anne Saunders (d. 1927), a naturalist who married the zoologist Thomas Roscoe Rede Stebbing FRS (1835–1926).