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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:23 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Teesdalia nudicaulis (21951) Reply with quote

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Specimen #282685

Taxon:Brassicaceae: Teesdalia nudicaulis (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Shepherd's Cress")
Filed in taxon folder:Brassicaceae: Teesdalia nudicaulis (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Shepherd's Cress")
Collection date:21/4/1898
Locality:Great Britain, VC37 Worcestershire, Habberley Valley, SO8077
communicated:Mr Langley Kitching
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Teesdalia nudicaulis herbarium specimen from Habberley Valley, VC37 Worcestershire in 1898.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by mikedaps on 12th November 2009.

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12/11/2009mikedapsDeleted note: 2nd specimen's undated and obscured label details "Holms Sans.... Moffat grows at ???? Habberley ???? Bewdley near W Smith"
16/11/2009mikedapsDeleted collector: Mr Langley Kitching

Specimen #282729

Taxon:Brassicaceae: Teesdalia nudicaulis (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Shepherd's Cress")
Filed in taxon folder:Brassicaceae: Teesdalia nudicaulis (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Shepherd's Cress")
Locality:Great Britain, VC72 Dumfriesshire, Moffat, NT00
communicated:Mr Langley Kitching
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
fruits/flowers:mature flowers
notes:Top specimen's label unclear and partially obscured: (Possibly collected from) "Holms Sands" (Moffat, where still a Holm Street and a Holms Farm) "....grows at .... (Hab?)berly near Bewdley Nr (Or pos by "Mr") W Smith"

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by mikedaps on 12th November 2009.

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16/11/2009mikedapsDeleted note: Top specimen's label obscured: Possibly locations, "Holms Sands.... Moffat grows at .... (Hab?)berly near Bewdley Near W Smith(?)"
16/11/2009mikedapsAdded note: Top specimen's label unclear and partially obscured: (Possibly collected from) "Holms Sands" (Moffat, where still a Holm Street and a Holms Farm) "....grows at .... (Hab?)berly near Bewdley Nr (Or pos by "Mr") W Smith"
08/12/2014oldnickDeleted locality: GB VC72
08/12/2014oldnickAdded locality: GB VC72 Moffat

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mikedaps wrote
Not sure what Moffat, Holms Sans and Smith refer to - Any ideas?


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: teesdalia nudicaulis Reply with quote

I suspect all place-names:
Holms Sands; Moffat; Mabberley; Yately; Bewdley; near W Smith's.
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, could be, though seems a lot and fairly well dispersed! Amended. Thanks Mike d'A.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they all refer to Moffat, with references back to the other specimen on the sheet.. There are several places: Holm Street, Holm House, Holms Farm etc in the Moffat area. Could the obscured word be Saint (?a church?)
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would make sense - also on re-looking the Nr might be a Mr - there were a few active Mr (as opposed to Rev) W Smith botanists then - Mr William H and Mr William Gardner Smith look the most promising, so gone for a comment hopefully summarising possibilities! Thanks Mike d'A
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