Feedback request: Teesdalia nudicaulis (21957)

[mossysal]

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Specimen #285363

Taxon:	Brassicaceae: Teesdalia nudicaulis (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Shepherd's Cress")
Filed in taxon folder:	Brassicaceae: Teesdalia nudicaulis (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Shepherd's Cress")
Collected by:	E H Penfold
Collection date:	12/5/1862
Locality:	Great Britain, VC17 Surrey, Wimbledon, TQ27
ex herb:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	seeds/fruits

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by mossysal on 1^st January 2010.

Edit history

date	user	change
03/01/2010	mossysal	Added collector: E H Penfold

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User comments about this sheet

mossysal wrote

Penfold ?Edge or ?Esq
It seems to be a name local to Wimbledon

[David Price]

It's a chap's (incomplete) name: " - Penfold Esqre"; presumably the collector's.

[Chris Liffen]

There is an E H Penfold, Wimbledon - see sheet
http://herbariaunited.org/sheets/BIRM/8468.jpg
Chris

[mossysal]

Funny, it didn't come up when I tried entering it as a collector. I must admit I only searched on Google, not on the collector database, but I imagine the "green lists" on the entry form are linked to that database?

[Chris Liffen]

I just looked using the H@H collectors tab, typed in Penfold and up came a Penfold with one sheet associated with him - which happened to be a Wimbledon location again. You can 'force' the form to accept a 'new' name - so if there is clearly a name on the form that is not in the database ....... I will leave it to Tom to explain the nuances of the system!
Regards
Chris

[Tom Humphrey]

Unfortunately the database system isn't very nuanced...

The system will accept (and add to the database) any name entered on the documentation form. That's necessary as there will continually be occurrences of new names.

Wherever possible the system will try to avoid duplicate records (combining name entries which appear to be the same - which itself can lead to problems).

Entries in the database are graded according to quality: 'good', 'dubious' or 'unrated'. Only entries marked as 'good' are shown on the drop down lists. Entries rated as 'good' haven't necessarily been researched and some will be duplicates or spelling-mistakes - the only criteria for rating a name is there is some evidence that the collector really exists.

Originally all names entered appeared immediately on the drop-down list but this caused problems becuase the displayed term-lists became full of large numbers of spelling mistakes and duplicate names. The problem with the current system is that many legitimate entries (e.g. Penfold) go unnoticed so don't get marked as accepted names. Whenever I'm made aware of these I mark the name - so for example Penfold is now on the list.

[mossysal]

Many thanks for the explanation, Tom. Sounds pretty subtle to me!
Sarah