Feedback request: Gagea lutea (16688)

[mossysal]

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Specimen #255762

Taxon:	Liliaceae: Gagea lutea (L.) Ker Gawl. ("Yellow Star-of-Bethlehem")
Filed in taxon folder:	Liliaceae: Gagea lutea (L.) Ker Gawl. ("Yellow Star-of-Bethlehem")
Collected by:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Locality:	Great Britain, VC63 South-west Yorkshire, Doncaster, SE50
ex herb:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
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Inferred details are marked.

Assimilated from an external database by BIRMherb.

Edit history

date	user	change
06/03/2010	mossysal	Deleted determination (orig): Gagea lutea
06/03/2010	mossysal	Added determination (orig): Gagea lutea
06/03/2010	mossysal	Deleted locality: GB VC63 Doncaster SE5702
06/03/2010	mossysal	Added locality: GB VC63 Doncaster SE5702
06/03/2010	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Deleted collector: Rev A Ley
06/03/2010	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Added collector: Rev. Augustin Ley
06/03/2010	mossysal	Deleted collection date: 1911
06/03/2010	mossysal	Added collection date: 1911
06/03/2010	mossysal	Replaced number: BIRM.tpd.temp.1138
16/07/2014	chrisu	Deleted note: Near Doncaster. [DoD used.]
16/07/2014	chrisu	Deleted locality: GB VC63 Doncaster SE5702
16/07/2014	chrisu	Added locality: GB VC63 Doncaster
16/07/2014	chrisu	Added provenance: exherb Rev. Augustin Ley
16/07/2014	chrisu	Deleted collection date: 1911

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User comments about this sheet

mossysal wrote

This seems a bit unlikely if he died in April of that year even if the curator has used date of death? (Why?)

[Tom Humphrey]

It's an imported specimen record from BIRM (one of a couple of thousand sheets that had already been documented prior to the herb@home project). With those records, if the sheet date was missing then the convention was to use the collector's year of death - this allowed the record to be placed in a BSBI date-class even if the date was not accurate.

I've left such dates untouched so as to avoid a lot of edits which would be of limited use (in terms of adding information). Ideally I should provide a way to mark such date entries as 'inferred'.

To avoid any ambiguity, for new documentation, dates of death should not be used in this way as the system can already infer the latest possible date - so only accurate dates should be recorded for new specimen records.

regards,

Tom

[mossysal]

Thanks, Tom. Very clear. I have posted a couple more similar ones. Have deleted collection date on the one documented here.
Sarah