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mossysal



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:33 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Ulmus surculosa (24317) Reply with quote

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Specimen #302712

Taxon:Ulmus campestris L.
Other name:Urticaceae: Ulmus surculosa Stokes
Other name:Ulmaceae: Ulmus L.
Filed in taxon folder:Urticaceae: Ulmus surculosa Stokes
Collected by:Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:5/1909
Locality:Great Britain, VC21 Middlesex, Hampton Court Park, TQ16
ex herb:Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Ulmus campestris herbarium specimen from Hampton Court Park, VC21 Middlesex in 1909 by Rev. Augustin Ley.
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits

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Documented by mossysal on 27th June 2010.

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27/06/2010mossysalDeleted locality: GB VC21 Hampton Court Park TQ162682 (place)
27/06/2010mossysalAdded locality: GB VC21 Hampton Court Park
28/06/2010mossysalDeleted determination (orig): Ulmus glabra
28/06/2010mossysalAdded determination (orig): Ulmus campestris

Specimen #302713

Taxon:Ulmaceae: Ulmus glabra Huds. ("Wych Elm")
Other name:Urticaceae: Ulmus surculosa Stokes
Other name:Ulmaceae: Ulmus L.
Filed in taxon folder:Urticaceae: Ulmus surculosa Stokes
Collected by:Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:30/4/1909
Locality:Great Britain, VC36 Herefordshire, Sellack, SO52
ex herb:Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
notes:Four packets of fruits from Sellack (1) and Hampton Court(2) and one undetermined (but Ley was in Surrey at the time)

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Documented by mossysal on 27th June 2010.

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27/06/2010mossysalDeleted locality: VC36 Sellack
27/06/2010mossysalAdded locality: GB VC36 Sellack

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mossysal wrote
small notch in fruit suggests near U glabra. B & H only have montana (= glabra) and campestre (? = procera - no entries in IPNI or Flora Europaea)


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is 'surculosa' not an error for suberosa (ie corky-barked)?
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mossysal



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Surculosa' was the default name on the sheet but as you say U. suberosa = U. campestris. I have changed the default name. Thank you.
I do wonder sometimes how these strange defaults arise often in contradiction to perfectly good collectors' names!? Confused
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