oldnick
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 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: Feedback request: Sorbus aucuparia x aria = S. x thuringiaca |
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Specimen #306195 | Taxon: | Rosaceae: Sorbus aucuparia x aria = S. x thuringiaca (Ilse) Fritsch |
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| Filed in taxon folder: | Rosaceae: Sorbus aucuparia x aria = S. x thuringiaca (Ilse) Fritsch |
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| Collected by: | Mr Charles Edgar Salmon |
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| Collection date: | 24/8/1900
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| Locality: | Great Britain, VC10 Isle of Wight, Carisbrooke Castle, SZ4887
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| ex herb: | Rev. Augustin Ley |
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| Institution: | University of Birmingham (BIRM) |
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| Image: |  |
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| fruits/flowers: | no flowers |
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| notes: | 'Spurs / specimens of P semipinnata, shew small bright orange red fruit [not on this sheet] can it be the native plant there? Ask for this'
From Townsend F. (1904) Flora of Hampshire incl. the Isle of Wight.
"P. semipinnata, Roth - 1st record Bromfield in Phyt., 1848. Wild in rocky places, probably introduced in Wight. IV. (N. Wight) (3) Carisbrooke Castle, a single tree, of considerable age, within the walls (1879). I understand that Prof. Babington considers this to be the same as the Arran plant. It accords perfectly with specimens in my Herb. from St Maurice, Switzerland.
There are specimens from West End Coppice or Carisbrooke Castle in the Br. Mus. Herb., communicated by Mr Stratton."
From the annotated copy of Townsend (1884) of Rev J.E. Kelsall (many of whose earlier records are in the 1904 Edn) under P. semipinnata, he writes quoting a letter from F. Stratton Sept (19)07. "I believe there is no doubt the white beam trees at Carisbrooke were planted by a former custodian, Mr Dennett". Kelsall also comments "Linn. writing to Miller, says he crossed these two (P. aria and P. aucuparia - marked in text) successfully." |
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| Filing note: | Sorbus x semipinnata |
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Documented by oldnick on 22nd August 2010. Edit history| date | user | change |
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| 02/09/2011 | oldnick | Deleted note: specimens shew small bright orange red fruit [not on this sheet] | | 02/09/2011 | oldnick | Added notes | | 08/09/2011 | geoff toone | Deleted note: 'Spurs / specimens of P semipinnata, shew small bright orange red fruit [not on this sheet] can it be the native plant there? Ask for this' | | 08/09/2011 | geoff toone | Added note: 'Spurs / specimens of P semipinnata, shew small bright orange red fruit [not on this sheet] can it be the native plant there? Ask for this'
From Townsend F. (1904) Flora of Hampshire incl. the Isle of Wight.
"P. semipinnata, Roth - 1st record Bromfield in Phyt., 1848. Wild in rocky places, probably introduced in Wight. IV. (N. Wight) (3) Carisbrooke Castle, a single tree, of considerable age, within the walls (1879). I understand that Prof. Babington considers this to be the same as the Arran plant. It accords perfectly with specimens in my Herb. from St Maurice, Switzerland.
There are specimens from West End Coppice or Carisbrooke Castle in the Br. Mus. Herb., communicated by Mr Stratton."
From the annotated copy of Townsend (1884) of Rev J.E. Kelsall (many of whose earlier records are in the 1904 Edn) under P. semipinnata, he writes quoting a letter from F. Stratton Sept (19)07. "I believe there is no doubt the white beam trees at Carisbrooke were planted by a former custodian, Mr Dennett". Kelsall also comments "Linn. writing to Miller, says he crossed these two (P. aria and P. aucuparia - marked in text) successfully." | | 08/09/2011 | geoff toone | Deleted locality: GB VC10 Carisbrook Castle | | 08/09/2011 | geoff toone | Added locality: GB VC10 Carisbrooke Castle SZ4887 (place) |
Documented by oldnick on 22nd August 2010. Edit history| date | user | change |
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| 02/09/2011 | oldnick | Deleted note: P scandica Syme. Planted | | 02/09/2011 | oldnick | Added note: P scandica Syme [Ley has also used this name for S x vagensis on another sheet]. Planted | | 02/09/2011 | oldnick | Deleted locality: (cultivated) GB VC59 Preston | | 02/09/2011 | oldnick | Added locality: (cultivated) GB VC59 Preston SD53 (place) |
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User comments about this sheet - oldnick wrote
- Preston specimen appears to be S intermedia??
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