Feedback request: Rumex acetosella subsp. acetosella (41144)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #367248

Taxon:	Polygonaceae: Rumex acetosella subsp. acetosella
Filed in taxon folder:	Polygonaceae: Rumex acetosella subsp. acetosella
Collected by:	Mrs Joyce Eva Smith Mr Edward Charles Wallace
Collection date:	8/6/1967
Locality:	Great Britain, VC17 Surrey, Littleton, TQ06, [see message board!] 'shore Littleton [TQ?] 978479'
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:
notes:	94/D4 [= tetrad TQ94T]
Filing note:	Rumex acetosella var tenuifolius

Documented by oldnick on 7^th January 2014.

Edit history

date	user	change
07/01/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB AMBIGUOUS Littleton
07/01/2014	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC17 Littleton, [see message board!] 'shore Littleton [TQ?] 978479' TQ06 (place)
07/01/2014	oldnick	Deleted collector: J E S (J E S)
07/01/2014	oldnick	Added collector: J E S (J E S) [illegible]
15/06/2015	xmhcman	Added note: 94/D4 [= tetrad TQ94T]
15/06/2015	xmhcman	Deleted collector: J E S (J E S) [illegible]
15/06/2015	xmhcman	Added collector: Mrs Joyce Eva Smith [illegible]

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oldnick wrote

This label is uniform with http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/314550/ http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/367249/ and http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/367165/ It suggests Littleton, Surrey, between Sunbury & Staines and south of Ashford, Middx, and not the sea-shore but the shore of St Mary's Reservoir. The grid ref on the label however is for a point north of another Ashford, in Kent. I don't know who the collector ES or JES is, Wallace usually collected with Jean Byatt; but I can't help suspecting J E Lousley, who appears on the other sheets as collector, and determiner, and in whose handwriting I think 'shore Littleton' is written. So the actual mystery handwriting is the main script on these labels - which isn't too different from Jean Byatt's. The other problem is that the grid ref for the site of Littleton near Staines (TQ075685) is regarded by the h@h 'gazetteer' as in vc Middx - and of course there's also another Littleton in Surrey, south of Guildford at SU985475, which isn't too different from the grid ref on the label! I think the site is the Littleton near the reservoir and the rest of the label is an unfortunate retrospective attempt, which Lousley then corrected ....?

[Roger Horton]

There is a 'grid reference' in the Lousley system on the label. There should be a key on the Job Edward Lousley wiki page but the images have gone AWOL! It was published in his Flora of Surrey, page 86, but misprinted! It omits the hectad letters, SU or TQ for Surrey, so is prone to error. Here '94/D4' ought to be SU94T (by DINTY) which is around Loseley Park just east of Compton. I agree that Littleton next to Queen Mary Reservoir is much more likely. It also looks as though everything apart from the location was added, perhaps later, in a different hand, and perhaps by someone confused by Lousley's system.