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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Peucedanum ostruthium (23562) Reply with quote

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Specimen #281179

Taxon:Apiaceae: Peucedanum ostruthium (L.) W.D.J. Koch ("Masterwort")
Filed in taxon folder:Apiaceae: Peucedanum ostruthium (L.) W.D.J. Koch ("Masterwort")
Collected by:Mr John Thomas Irvine Boswell-Syme
Collection date:7/1872
Locality:Great Britain, VC85 Fifeshire, Balmule, NT0991, "North" Balmule.
ex herb:Prof George Stephen West
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Peucedanum ostruthium herbarium specimen from Balmule, VC85 Fifeshire in 1872 by Mr John Thomas Irvine Boswell-Syme.
fruits/flowers:no flowers
notes:Flowers possibly under the pressed leaves

Documented by mikedaps on 26th October 2009.

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dateuserchange
27/10/2009mikedapsDeleted locality: GB VC85 North Balmuto NT221897 (place)
27/10/2009mikedapsAdded locality: GB VC85 Balmule, "North" Balmule. NT0991 (place)
27/10/2009mikedapsDeleted note: Flowers appear to be under the pressed leaves
27/10/2009mikedapsAdded note: Flowers possibly under the pressed leaves
27/10/2009mikedapsDeleted attribute flowerField: flowering
27/10/2009mikedapsAdded attribute flowerField: none

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mikedaps wrote
Not convinced the loc is North Balmuto - But no place like Ba/u?lwa/u?le, Any ideas?


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mossysal



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Balmule
OS Grid reference NT0991

No flowers.
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, that makes sense - Thanks
Re flower there is what looks like an umbel emerging from beneath the lower left leaf with 'shadows' of what might be more.... Mike d'A
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mossysal



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I see what you mean, but it's not part of the plant. If you look at the plant, the inflorescences arise from the axils of the leaves, not near the leaflets. See: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Koeh-236.jpg/250px-Koeh-236.jpg

I have seen some pretty awful herbarium specimens, but never one in which the flowers are totally obscured! Rolling Eyes There would be very lttle point!
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, agreed: Amended to "No flowers" (...probably). Actually quite impressed that more of the specimens don't survive only as loose assemblages of fragments... assuming these are typical and not just the ones fit for photography. Mike d'A
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Tom Humphrey
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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assuming these are typical and not just the ones fit for photography

For herb@home everything gets photographed (with the occasional exception of sheets with no useful label information) - but of course it's probable that in the past badly deteriorated specimens may have been disposed of - herbarium policies vary, but in general nowadays all specimens are retained regardless of condition.
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. Mike d'A
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Location - more likely North Balmule grid ref NT2089, NE of Aberdour, marked Bankhead on modern map; as per old map on message board http://herbariaunited.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12309
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