Feedback request: Rosa caesia (200705111004_4248)

[JoBrodie]

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Specimen #263703

Taxon:	Rosaceae: Rosa canina L. ("Dog-rose") named by William Richardson Linton Rosa canina var pruinosa [see report]
Other name:	Rosaceae: Rosa caesia Sm.
Filed in taxon folder:	Rosaceae: Rosa caesia Sm.
Collected by:	Rev William Richardson Linton
Collection date:	10/8/1884
Locality:	Great Britain, VC88 Mid Perthshire, Glenshee, NN93
ex herb:	Rev William Richardson Linton Botanical Exchange Club of The British Isles
Institution:	Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	seeds/fruits

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by jobrodie on 3^rd August 2008.

Checked by hallucigenia

Edit history

date	user	change
02/07/2010	hallucigenia	Deleted determiner: Rev William Richardson Linton
02/07/2010	hallucigenia	Added collector: Rev William Richardson Linton
02/07/2010	hallucigenia	Added provenance: exherb (Botanical Exchange Club of The British Isles)
02/07/2010	hallucigenia	Deleted collection date: 1/9/1884
02/07/2010	hallucigenia	Added collection date: 1/8/1884
17/11/2010	hallucigenia	Added determination (orig): Rosa caesia
17/11/2010	hallucigenia	Deleted note: Rosa canina, pruinosa. Glen Shee, Perth, 1ST Sept., 1884. - E. F. LINTON, "Similar to a plant so named, sent out through the Club last year. Seems correctly named." - T. R. Archer Briggs. Passed by Mr. J. G. Baker.
17/11/2010	hallucigenia	Added determiner: Rev William Richardson Linton
17/11/2010	hallucigenia	Added determiner: Mr Thomas Richard Archer Briggs
17/11/2010	hallucigenia	Added determiner: John Gilbert Baker
17/11/2010	hallucigenia	Added determiner's note: "Grey Hedge"
08/06/2011	mossysal	Deleted determination (orig): Rosa caesia
08/06/2011	mossysal	Added determination (orig): Rosa canina
08/06/2011	mossysal	Deleted determiner: Mr Thomas Richard Archer Briggs
08/06/2011	mossysal	Deleted determiner: Rev William Richardson Linton
08/06/2011	mossysal	Deleted determiner: John Gilbert Baker
08/06/2011	mossysal	Added determiner: Rev William Richardson Linton
08/06/2011	mossysal	Deleted collection date: 1/8/1884
08/06/2011	mossysal	Added collection date: 10/8/1884
08/06/2011	mossysal	Added determiner's note: Rosa canina var pruinosa [see report]

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User comments about this sheet

jobrodie wrote

Typed note gives collection date as 1 Sep 1884 but handwritten label gives VIII suggesting eighth month, ie August? Also "E. F. Linton" given instead of WRL.

[mossysal]

From a search of specimens it seems as though the two Linton brothers were collecting together in Scotland in August (but not Sept) 1884.

There is no mention of R caesia on the sheet and searching the literature I can't find any reference to R canina subsp [or var.] pruinosa. The location is right for R caesia but is it safe to call it this or should it stay as R canina agg.?