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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Medicago lupulina (15907) Reply with quote

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Specimen #286426

Taxon:Fabaceae: Medicago lupulina L. ("Black Medick")
Filed in taxon folder:Fabaceae: Medicago lupulina L. ("Black Medick")
Collected by:Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:17/7/1907
Locality:Great Britain, VC44 Carmarthenshire, Llandyfan, SN6417
ex herb:Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Medicago lupulina herbarium specimen from Llandyfan, VC44 Carmarthenshire in 1907 by Rev. Augustin Ley.
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits
notes:'pods hairy, cut and glandular

Documented by mossysal following initial work by p1611 on 13th January 2010.

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dateuserchange
14/01/2010mossysalDeleted note: 'pods hairy, cut and glandular - Llandevarn'
'with hairy pods - railway bank, Knightwick station'
14/01/2010mossysalAdded note: 'pods hairy, cut and glandular
14/01/2010mossysalDeleted locality: GB VC44
14/01/2010mossysalAdded locality: GB VC44 Llansadwrn
14/01/2010mossysalAdded collector: Rev. Augustin Ley
14/01/2010mossysalDeleted collection date: 2/8/1908
15/01/2010mossysalDeleted locality: GB VC44 Llansadwrn
15/01/2010mossysalAdded locality: GB VC44 Llandyfan SN6417 (place)

Specimen #286588

Taxon:Fabaceae: Medicago lupulina L. ("Black Medick")
Filed in taxon folder:Fabaceae: Medicago lupulina L. ("Black Medick")
Collected by:Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:3/8/1908
Locality:Great Britain, VC37 Worcestershire, Knightwick, SO737551, railway bank, Knightwick station'
ex herb:Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits
notes:'with hairy pods -

Documented by mossysal on 14th January 2010.

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mossysal



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both difficult sites and I am not sure I have got the Llandevarn one right now. I looked to see where Ley had been on that date and there are two records for Talley Lakes in Carmarthens. browsing around the map, I found Llansadwrn about 6km away. It is reaching a bit, but unless anyone has a better idea...... Rolling Eyes Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Llandevarn. On the previous day Ley collected at Carreg Cennen. We may suppose he spent the night at Glynhir, Llandybie, the home of his late wife's family the de Buissons. It is but a short distance thence to Llandyfan SN6417. Llandyfan Church has an interesting history http://www.terrynorm.ic24.net/llandyfan%20church.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for that. Ley's Welsh was a bit anglicised but I wasn't at all happy with my solution, although the Ley original didn't come up on Google, OS or any other search! Surprised

Glynhir is the location for Richard Pryce's famous botanical week for the BSBI held in July every year - a wonderful occasion! http://www.theglynhirestate.com/history/index.htm

I didn't know about the Ley connection and thanks as well for the link to Llandevan/Llandyfan Church.
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