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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Berula erecta (21435) Reply with quote

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Specimen #344494

Taxon:Apiaceae: Berula erecta (Huds.) Coville ("Lesser Water-parsnip")
Other name:Sium angustifolium ("Water-parsnip, Greater")
Filed in taxon folder:Apiaceae: Berula erecta (Huds.) Coville ("Lesser Water-parsnip")
Collected by:Hugh Neville Dixon
Harold Goodman Dixon
Collection date:20/9/1879
Locality:Great Britain, VC19 North Essex, Wickham Mills, TL81, Back water (sic), Wickham Mills
communicated:Leslie Beeching Hall
ex herb:Hugh Neville Dixon
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Berula erecta herbarium specimen from Wickham Mills, VC19 North Essex in 1879 by Hugh Neville Dixon.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by xmhcman on 5th October 2012.

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dateuserchange
15/10/2012xmhcmanDeleted locality: GB VC19 Wickham Mills, Backwater, Wickham Mills TL81 (place)
15/10/2012xmhcmanAdded locality: GB VC19 Wickham Mills, Back water (sic), Wickham Mills TL81 (place)
29/11/2012xmhcmanAdded collector: Mrs H (Anne) Dixon
07/10/2014xmhcmanDeleted collector: Mrs H (Anne) Dixon
07/10/2014xmhcmanAdded collector: Harold Goodman Dixon

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xmhcman wrote
Wickham Mills no longer a place name, but Blue Mills at Wickham Bishop in Essex has a backwater at TL830131


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correctly located, not an easy one, however it must be the River Blackwater?
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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all new to me, but I have some experience of extracting data from old records of bird nesting, and I've always erred on the side of caution. I'd be glad of any advice as to how much 'reading between the lines' we should allow ourselves, please. HND 130 years ago wrote 'Backwater', as part of what is clearly the Blackwater! Even on the OS map today there appears to be a backwater near the mill.

How about locality of:

'Possibly backwater of the River Blackwater, Wickham Mills'

Are there other examples of HND writing the name Blackwater?!
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/341663/ and I think there is at least one other; as well as at least one with 'Wickham Mills'
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Oldnick! This sheet (21435) has 'Back water' on the label. The example you have found (20520) has 'R. Blackwater', suggesting to me that HND on 21435 really did mean a backwater!
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mossysal



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what about Wickham Mill Bridge at
OS Grid reference TL822116
? - so maybe he really did mean 'backwater'! Smile
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