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oldnick
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: Feedback request: Polystichum lonchitus (K000790408) |
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Documented by oldnick on 3rd August 2012. Checked by mossysal Edit historydate | user | change |
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05/08/2012 | mossysal | Deleted determination (orig): Polystichum lonchitus | 05/08/2012 | mossysal | Added determination (orig): Polystichum lonchitis | 05/08/2012 | mossysal | Added determination (orig): Polystichum aculeatum | 05/08/2012 | mossysal | Deleted determination (orig): Polystichum lonchitis | 05/08/2012 | mossysal | Deleted determination (orig): Polystichum aculeatum | 05/08/2012 | mossysal | Added determination (orig): Polystichum lonchitis | 05/08/2012 | mossysal | Added determination (orig): Polystichum aculeatum |
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User comments about this sheet - oldnick wrote
- P lonchitis, or possibly an Asplenium? eg A trichomanes ssp pachyrachis?
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mossysal
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1669
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Certainly a Polystichum, I would say - not Asplenium with those acuminate teeth.
There is an old record of P lonchitis from Cader, too: though this looks atypical, it's possible. I would tend to think it a young form of P aculeatum. Thanks for flagging it up. |
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Roger Horton
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Posts: 1545 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Could this be a 20th century label, and hence the year 1978 rather than 1878? Otherwise HF Devis seems to have had a long life span, unless father and son. |
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Tom Humphrey Site Admin
Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 1298 Location: Wallingford, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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It might be 22/8/1918 which would fit with Devis' floreat dates (1900 - 1930).
There's a Kew 1930 stamp, so it's not 1978. |
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oldnick
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:13 am Post subject: |
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This presumably could be a mistranscription, unlikely though that must be, as a'1' is usually written with no descender, as well as no horizontal. Seems to me a mystery!? |
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Roger Horton
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Posts: 1545 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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OK - I now agree this is 1878. All the Kew sheets from Devis appear to have the red printed labels, presumably filled in by Devis himself. The Birmingham sheets on the other hand are associated with Harold Stuart Thompson who seems to have written the labels. Looking through the 'red' labels I don't think there is a chance of confusing 1 with 7, although the 7 sometimes has a cupped top making it look like 4. Often the figure 8 is written like an S without the two loops being completed (which seems to be a 19th century fashion), and easily distinguished from 3 which is always formed by two open curves.
There are apparently several hundred Devis specimens in the Kew herbarium so more evidence may come to light soon. |
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