Feedback request: Potamogeton filiformis (6263)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #241913

Taxon:	Potamogeton filiformis Pers. ("Slender-leaved Pondweed") confirmed by George Taylor & James Edgar Dandy 1943
Filed in taxon folder:	Potamogeton filiformis Pers. ("Slender-leaved Pondweed")
Locality:	Great Britain, VC81 Berwickshire
ex herb:	Rev Dr Thomas Fletcher
Institution:	Manchester Museum (MANCH)
Accession number:	K2 24822
Image:
fruits/flowers:	buds/immature flowers
notes:	no site name or collection date

Documented by CLL on 19^th December 2007.

Checked by oldnick

Edit history

date	user	change
16/09/2008	keith barnett	Deleted determination (orig): Potamogeton filiformis
16/09/2008	keith barnett	Added determination (orig): Potamogeton filiformis on 1943
16/09/2008	keith barnett	Deleted note: small red label E Coll Fletcher - assume that this is the collector, no details of date or location on sheet
16/09/2008	keith barnett	Added notes
16/09/2008	keith barnett	Added provenance: exherb Mr Fletcher
16/09/2008	keith barnett	Replaced number: K224822
08/12/2008	tom humphrey (bulk edit)	Deleted determiner: (James Edgar Dandy and G. Taylor)
08/12/2008	tom humphrey (bulk edit)	Added determiner: George Taylor
08/12/2008	tom humphrey (bulk edit)	Added determiner: James Edgar Dandy
09/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted note: no collection date
09/11/2014	oldnick	Added note: no site name or collection date
09/11/2014	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Deleted determiner: George Taylor
09/11/2014	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Deleted determiner: James Edgar Dandy
09/11/2014	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Added determiner: George Taylor
09/11/2014	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Added determiner: Mr James Edgar Dandy
09/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted collector: Mr Fletcher
09/11/2014	oldnick	Added collector: Dr Harold Roy Fletcher
10/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted collector: Dr Harold Roy Fletcher
10/11/2014	oldnick	Added collector: Rev Dr Thomas Fletcher
10/11/2014	oldnick	Added provenance: exherb Dr Harold Roy Fletcher
11/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted determination (orig): Potamogeton filiformis on 1943
11/11/2014	oldnick	Added determination (conf): Potamogeton filiformis on 1943
11/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted determiner: Mr James Edgar Dandy
11/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted determiner: George Taylor
11/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted provenance: exherb Dr Harold Roy Fletcher
11/11/2014	oldnick	Added determiner: Mr James Edgar Dandy
11/11/2014	oldnick	Added determiner: George Taylor
11/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted provenance: exherb Mr Fletcher
11/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted collector: Rev Dr Thomas Fletcher
11/11/2014	oldnick	Added provenance: exherb Rev Dr Thomas Fletcher

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User comments about this sheet

oldnick wrote

'Fletcher' has 134 specimens in h@h from all over Britain, and abroad. Is he the same person as Dr Harold Roy Fletcher, who has 9 specimens

[David Price]

No.

Dr Harold Roy Fletcher F.R.S.E (14/4/1907-27/8/1978) was Keeper of Royal Botanic Gardens, Edinburgh, 1956-1970.

Two years ago the Curator of Botany, Manchester Museum, sent this helpful reply to my enquiry -

"The herbarium accession register records the arrival of E coll Fletcher as chiefly a collection of British flowering plants on the 13th Feb 1905. The accession lot number is K24822 and so if you wish to see an of the other material he left with the museum, you can search here: http://emu.man.ac.uk/mmcustom/NSDtlQuery.php using that accession number. The Annual Report for the Manchester Museum 1904-1905 is a little more useful as it gives his full name as the Rev. Dr. Thomas Fletcher and states that he presented material which was mostly collected by the late Dr. Carrington."

Further enquiries have so far proved fruitless.

[oldnick]

Thanks - that fits with Carrington specimens I'm finding, I've re-edited as Thomas Fletcher, and am going through some others. They seemed to be big Potamogeton fans. Unfortunately the situation isn't helped by nearly all the sheets edited as 'Benjamin Carrington', 'Fletcher' or 'Harold Roy Fletcher' being entered without photo

[David Price]

Surely, all that can be inferred from this sheet is that it is ex herb Thomas Fletcher. There is no evidence of who was the collector. The date of accession by MANCH precludes any involvement of H R Fletcher.

[oldnick]

sorry my mistake, more haste less speed