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chrisu



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Allium scorodoprasum (16766) Reply with quote

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Specimen #281686

Taxon:Liliaceae: Allium schoenoprasum L. ("Chives")
Filed in taxon folder:Liliaceae: Allium scorodoprasum L. ("Sand Leek")
Collected by:Sir Hugh Reeve Beevor
Collection date:24/5/1914
Locality:Cultivated Great Britain, Norfolk, Hargham Hall, TM021922
ex herb:Frederick Robinson
Rev Douglas Montague Heath
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Allium schoenoprasum herbarium specimen from Hargham Hall, Norfolk in 1914 by Sir Hugh Reeve Beevor.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers
notes:Introduced into garden of Hargham from The Lizard Point Cornwall wild origin

Documented by chrisu on 2nd November 2009.

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02/11/2009chrisuAdded collector: Sir H R Beevor
02/11/2009wonastowDeleted determination (orig): Allium scorodoprasum
02/11/2009wonastowAdded determination (orig): Allium schoenoprasum
02/11/2009chrisuDeleted note: Introduced into garden of Harg? wild origin
02/11/2009chrisuAdded notes
02/11/2009chrisuDeleted note: Introduced into garden of Hargham from Lizard Point wild origin
02/11/2009chrisuAdded notes
02/11/2009chrisuDeleted locality: (cultivated) GB VC1 Lizard Point
02/11/2009chrisuAdded locality: (cultivated) GB VC27,VC28 Hargham Hall
03/11/2009chrisuDeleted locality: (cultivated) GB VC27,VC28 Hargham Hall
03/11/2009chrisuAdded locality: (cultivated) GB VC27,VC28 Hargham Hall TM021922 (place)
23/03/2013chrisuDeleted collector: Sir H R Beevor
23/03/2013chrisuAdded collector: Sir Hugh Reeve Beevor
23/03/2013chrisuDeleted note: Introduced into garden of Hargham from The Lizard Point Cornwall
wild origin
23/03/2013chrisuAdded note: Introduced into garden of Hargham from The Lizard Point Cornwall wild origin

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chrisu wrote
Not sure of the collector Sir H R ?
Can't make out the note either, Introduced into the garden of ?


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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a partially visible (for free) listing for him: "Sir H R Beevor (1858 - ) born 31 Oct 1858 Collected plants in Aden. 1884. now at Kew Kew Bull 1901, 7. Rec. Bot. Survey vl, 1914, 17. ... " in the Dictionary of Botanists of the British Isles and Ireland (See in Google books) that must be your chap. Equally baffled by "..Garden at Hou???" Mike d'A
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chrisu



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike, I did have a 'google' but didn't come up with anything
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David Price



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This plant was correctly identified by Robinson as Chives (Allium sibiricum is a superceded name). A scorodoprasum is not found in Cornwall but in the North of England.
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chrisu



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done some more checking and I found this obituary in BMJ 1939
SIR HUGH BEEVOR, BT., M.D., F.R.C.P.
Consulting Physician, King's College Hospital
Sir Hugh Beevor, fifth baronet, of Hargham Hall, near
Norwich, died in a nursing home on February 24 at the
age of 80. He had long retired from active practice as
a physician in London and lived the life of a Norfolk
country gentleman, for which he was well fitted. He had
an expert knowledge of trees and other plants and took
a leading part in the work of the English Arboricultural
Society.
Hugh Reeve Beevor was born on October 31, 1858
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Hargham Hall might be the garden referred to?

OS Grid reference TM021922

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chrisu



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well spotted Chris - I think you're right
I am now thinking that the specimen was collected at Hargham and was introduced to the garden there from Lizard Point
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

an interesting sheet Smile
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