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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Hordeum secalinum (150709_812) Reply with quote

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Specimen #298421

Taxon:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Other name:Poaceae: Hordeum pratense Huds.
Filed in taxon folder:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Collected by:Mr Henry Ibbotson
Collection date:7/1849
Locality:Great Britain, VC62 North-east Yorkshire, Ganthorpe, SE67
ex herb:Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-25471
Image:Hordeum secalinum herbarium specimen from Ganthorpe, VC62 North-east Yorkshire in 1849 by Mr Henry Ibbotson.
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by mikedaps on 17th May 2010.

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19/05/2010mikedapsAdded provenance: exherb Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
24/10/2013oldnickAdded notes
08/11/2013wonastowDeleted note: [site & style of label suggest collector H Ibbotson]
08/11/2013wonastowAdded collector: Mr Henry Ibbotson

Specimen #298422

Taxon:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Other name:Poaceae: Hordeum pratense Huds.
Filed in taxon folder:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Collected by:Rev. William Allport Leighton
Locality:
ex herb:Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-25471
notes:"Wild Meadow Barley, 3. leaf. 2. Order. Linn Not common" Envelope attached to sheet above the specimens above this label (2 of 4 on sheet)

Documented by mikedaps on 17th May 2010.

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19/05/2010mikedapsAdded collector: Rev. William Allport Leighton
19/05/2010mikedapsAdded provenance: exherb Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
24/10/2013oldnickDeleted note: "Wild Meadow Barley, 3. leaf. 2. Order. Linn Not common"
Envelope attached to sheet above the specimens above this label (2 of 4 on sheet)
24/10/2013oldnickAdded note: "Wild Meadow Barley, 3. leaf. 2. Order. Linn Not common" Envelope attached to sheet above the specimens above this label (2 of 4 on sheet)

Specimen #298423

Taxon:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Other name:Poaceae: Hordeum pratense Huds.
Filed in taxon folder:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Collected by:Rev. William Robert Crotch
Locality:Great Britain, VC59 South Lancashire, Liverpool, SJ39, near
ex herb:Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-25471

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Documented by mikedaps on 17th May 2010.

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19/05/2010mikedapsAdded collector: Rev William Richardson Linton
19/05/2010mikedapsAdded provenance: exherb Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
24/10/2013oldnickAdded collector: Rev. William Robert Crotch
24/10/2013oldnickDeleted locality: GB VC59 Liverpool
24/10/2013oldnickAdded locality: GB VC59 Liverpool, near
24/10/2013oldnickDeleted collector: Rev William Richardson Linton

Specimen #298424

Taxon:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Other name:Poaceae: Hordeum pratense Huds.
Filed in taxon folder:Poaceae: Hordeum secalinum Schreb. ("Meadow Barley")
Collected by:Charles Ottley Groom
Locality:Great Britain, VC14 East Sussex, Lewes, TQ30
ex herb:Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-25471
notes:[C O G N = Charles Ottley Groom Napier, the 'Prince of Mantua And Montferrat'

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Documented by mikedaps on 17th May 2010.

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19/05/2010mikedapsAdded provenance: exherb Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
24/10/2013oldnickAdded note: [C O G N = Charles Ottley Groom Napier, the 'Prince of Mantua And Montferrat'
24/10/2013<system> (minor automatic edit)Deleted collector: Charles Ottley Groom-Napier
24/10/2013<system> (minor automatic edit)Added collector: Charles Ottley Groom

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mikedaps wrote
Any idea whose initials are on the upper of the two labels at bottom right might be? D K L ?


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your DKL is a WRC or WRL. Prince of M&M received specimens from W R Crotch & W R Linton, I don't know if either of those collected from Liverpool. The 'not common' label has handwriting extremely like M&M's friend W A Leighton, see: http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/298120/
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeson all counts, thanks! Also explains the purple smudge at bottom right that now appears from other WRL specimens to be M & M's herbarium stamp. Amended. Mike d'A
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would now definitely say W R Crotch and have re-edited
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